Wintersun의 앨범이 늦어지는 이유
Wintersun의 Jari가 현재 자신의 상황에 대하여 페이스북에 올린 글인데요
워낙 긴 글이라 간단히 요약해 보면
1. 레코딩 할 돈 없음 (돈 없어서 스튜디오를 못 빌림)
2. 집이 후져서 집에서는 레코딩도 못하고 연주도 못하고 아무것도 못함
3. 그래서 Wintersun 활동을 위해 스튜디오를 새로 짓고 싶음
4. 스튜디오를 위해 kickstarter이나 pledge에서 후원을 받으면 Nuclear Blast와 핀란드 정부에서 다 가져감
5. 여태까지 Wintersun 활동으로 돈 못범(레코딩에 다 꼬나박음)
6. Nuclear Blast는 내가 앨범 내는걸 원하는 것 같지가 않음 (Wintersun 지원에 미온적임)
7. 내 머리속엔 노래가 가득차있는데 레코딩을 못함ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
대충 (정말 대충입니다. 본문은 엄청 길어요.) 이정도가 되겠네요.
이걸 보니 왜 이리 앨범이 안 나왔는지, 그리고 지금 왜 안나오는지 대충 이해가 갑니다.
아마TIME II도 7년은 기다려야 나올 것 같네요.
Reality Update About Crowd Funding, TIME II And Future Albums
I´m very happy to see that we have so much dedicated fans that would be willing to pledge and be a part of funding a studio for Wintersun, so I could make the next Wintersun album without it taking another 10 years again.
I´ve been thinking about this Kickstarter/Pledge crowd funding thing for a while and I´m very confident now that there is enough of you guys that would help us raise the money for the Wintersun studio! This would give me the freedom to make music efficiently and nonstop. It would eliminate lot of the problems I´ve struggled with all my life and still continue to struggle everyday. For example right now I need a studio to reamp guitars for TIME II. And not just any studio, my own studio where I can craft my sounds exactly like I want them. 3rd party studios have never worked for me and I´ve never gotten satisfactory results for the insane prices they charge.
I live in a small shitty apartment building and I have neighbors. It is very very hard to work like this. I can´t record vocals, I can´t practise my singing, I can´t record guitars, I can´t record guitars even with modelling amps, because the electricity is so bad in this shitty building so I get lots of interference, I even play and practise the electric guitar acoustically without an amp 99% of the time in my home, I can´t record drums or basically any acoustic instruments, I don´t have the room or cool space for a big computer farm which is a must for the orchestrations for the next album (the place is too small and hot even for the one computer I have), I can´t mix properly, ´cause the room is so bad and there´s always ambient noise in and outside the building. That´s why I usually turn my sleeping rhythm around and mix at nights, but that causes problems in my everyday life. I can´t do pretty much anything properly in this situation. Building a professional studio for Wintersun would erase all this and give us the freedom to make music nonstop. It would upgrade our album sound significantly and most importantly speed up the album making process significantly. This would even raise our live game. With proper preproduction, able to tweak our live sounds and setup properly we would sound pretty incredible live. We would also be able to rehearse more and that would allow us to be able to play live more often and come to places where we normally have not been able to come. The studio would allow us to have more time for everything.
But the problem is this. I have a record deal with Nuclear Blast. If I would do a Kickstarter with a downloadable album for example, they would come with lawyers and take % share (more than half) away from the money that is your money meant for the Wintersun studio and the album production. Would you even want to pledge if Wintersun didn´t get 100% of the money you´ve pledged for the album production? Then our management would take their % share away. Then there´s taxes of course. The Finnish government would take something like 40% away. This would leave me nothing. I would be totally screwed. I´ve been trying to have a discussion with Nuclear Blast about crowd funding, but they are totally freaking out. They see the crowd funding as a threat to their business and they would rather see Wintersun dead, than me doing a crowd funding. I think this would not hurt them at all, only benefit them, but they cannot see the big picture of Wintersun doing well. They actually told me point blank that I should just stop making music and they will never release Wintersun from the contract. It´s really like this, because they can´t or won´t loan me enough money to build a studio and fund an album, they don´t want other people (the fans) to fund it either… unless they get a crazy big cut of the funding (for doing absolutely nothing).
This is the way a record deal works: The label gives an advance to make an album. This is a loan and they will recoup every penny back from the record sales. The reason why TIME I&II has taken so long to make (and still is taking long to finish TIME II), is because I haven´t gotten enough advances (money) to make these complex albums. Not even close. So I´ve been struggling all these years and sacrificed everything to make these albums. I have never really made any money from Wintersun. All my money has gone to album production, but you can guess who have made tons of money from Wintersun. The point is that I need my own studio to make the future albums, but Nuclear Blast won´t be able to loan enough money to make that happen and then they won´t allow me to do a crow funding campaign either that would make it happen. And even if Nuclear Blast would be able to loan me the money for the studio, our management would take their share of that money and I would get only part of the money, but I would still have to pay back 100% to Nuclear Blast from the record sales. So I would actually lose big chunk of the album production money straight away, which makes no sense at all. And then there´s the taxes. So there´s no point of taking these “loans” either.
This all is stressing me out very badly and it´s slowing my workflow. I´ve got enough technical problems to deal with making these albums. I just want the freedom to make music, but I guess it is what it is. Honestly, I feel like I´ve signed a deal with the devil and I´m just a slave in the system.
I´ve got probably 5 long albums worth of new insanely good material! And there´s no filler material at all! The music is much more refined, much more advanced in arrangement/composition/productionwise.
It´s diverse and beautiful, heavy, chaotic and exploring different
styles&themes and some new dimensions I feel no band has explored
before… The stuff is simply on another level, in a different universe
than the debut album and the TIME albums combined. I wrote the TIME
albums around 2006 and before, that was a lifetime ago. Think of the
stuff I´ve written ever since to this day! And I just keep on writing, I
feel like I´m on fire. The music is just flowing out of me. I´m so
excited about all this new music and I can´t wait to start recording and
sharing it with you… BUT I can´t without a studio, that´s the problem…
Jari
p.s. Should have stayed working in the post office!
워낙 긴 글이라 간단히 요약해 보면
1. 레코딩 할 돈 없음 (돈 없어서 스튜디오를 못 빌림)
2. 집이 후져서 집에서는 레코딩도 못하고 연주도 못하고 아무것도 못함
3. 그래서 Wintersun 활동을 위해 스튜디오를 새로 짓고 싶음
4. 스튜디오를 위해 kickstarter이나 pledge에서 후원을 받으면 Nuclear Blast와 핀란드 정부에서 다 가져감
5. 여태까지 Wintersun 활동으로 돈 못범
6. Nuclear Blast는 내가 앨범 내는걸 원하는 것 같지가 않음 (Wintersun 지원에 미온적임)
7. 내 머리속엔 노래가 가득차있는데 레코딩을 못함ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
대충 (정말 대충입니다. 본문은 엄청 길어요.) 이정도가 되겠네요.
이걸 보니 왜 이리 앨범이 안 나왔는지, 그리고 지금 왜 안나오는지 대충 이해가 갑니다.
아마
Reality Update About Crowd Funding, TIME II And Future Albums
I´m very happy to see that we have so much dedicated fans that would be willing to pledge and be a part of funding a studio for Wintersun, so I could make the next Wintersun album without it taking another 10 years again.
I´ve been thinking about this Kickstarter/Pledge crowd funding thing for a while and I´m very confident now that there is enough of you guys that would help us raise the money for the Wintersun studio! This would give me the freedom to make music efficiently and nonstop. It would eliminate lot of the problems I´ve struggled with all my life and still continue to struggle everyday. For example right now I need a studio to reamp guitars for TIME II. And not just any studio, my own studio where I can craft my sounds exactly like I want them. 3rd party studios have never worked for me and I´ve never gotten satisfactory results for the insane prices they charge.
I live in a small shitty apartment building and I have neighbors. It is very very hard to work like this. I can´t record vocals, I can´t practise my singing, I can´t record guitars, I can´t record guitars even with modelling amps, because the electricity is so bad in this shitty building so I get lots of interference, I even play and practise the electric guitar acoustically without an amp 99% of the time in my home, I can´t record drums or basically any acoustic instruments, I don´t have the room or cool space for a big computer farm which is a must for the orchestrations for the next album (the place is too small and hot even for the one computer I have), I can´t mix properly, ´cause the room is so bad and there´s always ambient noise in and outside the building. That´s why I usually turn my sleeping rhythm around and mix at nights, but that causes problems in my everyday life. I can´t do pretty much anything properly in this situation. Building a professional studio for Wintersun would erase all this and give us the freedom to make music nonstop. It would upgrade our album sound significantly and most importantly speed up the album making process significantly. This would even raise our live game. With proper preproduction, able to tweak our live sounds and setup properly we would sound pretty incredible live. We would also be able to rehearse more and that would allow us to be able to play live more often and come to places where we normally have not been able to come. The studio would allow us to have more time for everything.
But the problem is this. I have a record deal with Nuclear Blast. If I would do a Kickstarter with a downloadable album for example, they would come with lawyers and take % share (more than half) away from the money that is your money meant for the Wintersun studio and the album production. Would you even want to pledge if Wintersun didn´t get 100% of the money you´ve pledged for the album production? Then our management would take their % share away. Then there´s taxes of course. The Finnish government would take something like 40% away. This would leave me nothing. I would be totally screwed. I´ve been trying to have a discussion with Nuclear Blast about crowd funding, but they are totally freaking out. They see the crowd funding as a threat to their business and they would rather see Wintersun dead, than me doing a crowd funding. I think this would not hurt them at all, only benefit them, but they cannot see the big picture of Wintersun doing well. They actually told me point blank that I should just stop making music and they will never release Wintersun from the contract. It´s really like this, because they can´t or won´t loan me enough money to build a studio and fund an album, they don´t want other people (the fans) to fund it either… unless they get a crazy big cut of the funding (for doing absolutely nothing).
This is the way a record deal works: The label gives an advance to make an album. This is a loan and they will recoup every penny back from the record sales. The reason why TIME I&II has taken so long to make (and still is taking long to finish TIME II), is because I haven´t gotten enough advances (money) to make these complex albums. Not even close. So I´ve been struggling all these years and sacrificed everything to make these albums. I have never really made any money from Wintersun. All my money has gone to album production, but you can guess who have made tons of money from Wintersun. The point is that I need my own studio to make the future albums, but Nuclear Blast won´t be able to loan enough money to make that happen and then they won´t allow me to do a crow funding campaign either that would make it happen. And even if Nuclear Blast would be able to loan me the money for the studio, our management would take their share of that money and I would get only part of the money, but I would still have to pay back 100% to Nuclear Blast from the record sales. So I would actually lose big chunk of the album production money straight away, which makes no sense at all. And then there´s the taxes. So there´s no point of taking these “loans” either.
This all is stressing me out very badly and it´s slowing my workflow. I´ve got enough technical problems to deal with making these albums. I just want the freedom to make music, but I guess it is what it is. Honestly, I feel like I´ve signed a deal with the devil and I´m just a slave in the system.
I´ve got probably 5 long albums worth of new insanely good material! And there´s no filler material at all! The music is much more refined, much more advanced in arrangement/composition/
Jari
p.s. Should have stayed working in the post office!
이런. 장기 팔아서라도 돈을 주고 싶은데.. | ||
아... 너무 안타까운 글입니다 ㅠ | ||
Time이 1, 2로 나뉜것도 돈이 부족해서 그런건가.. 아깝네요 ㅜ | ||
만악의 근원 뉴클리어 블라스트.... | ||
Should have stayed working at the post office :( Jari가 우체국이라니.. | ||
정말 재능 넘치는 아티스트인데 결국 돈이 문제였군요 작년에 공연봤을때는 사람도 많이 오고 정말 끝장나는 라이브를 보여줬었는데 말입니다.. 아쉽습니다 | ||
어째 앨범의 음질이 너무 좋았다 했더니 앨범 판매와 공연으로 번 돈을 담보 잡혀서 스튜디오에 다 내준 거네요. 아... | ||
안타깝기 그지없군요 ㅠㅜ 완전 노예계약... 엔시페럼에 계속 몸담고 있었다면 형편이 괜찮았을텐데...ㅠㅜ | ||
역시 뉴블 클라스... | ||
헤에... 옴니움 인터뷰때 다들 투잡뛰고있다고 한것도 그렇고 핀란드라고 음악으로 먹고살기 쉬운게 아닌가보네요. | ||
노예계약이라니;; | ||
안타깝네요 ㅠㅠ.. | ||
갑자기 열받네요 | ||
다음 신보는 언제쯤 만날 수 있으려나... | ||
명불허전 뉴블... | ||
진짜 열받네요 응원합니다 | ||
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